$1,500 dollar wax??!?!?1

I have one question:



Since Zymol appears (per the wax's description) to make waxes specifically for Jaguar, Volvo, Saab, and Italian-made vehicles... Why the hell don't they make one for BMW? Not as high-end as a Volvo :rolleyes: ?
 
I think they've got one...z3 ???? I agree, why not a BMW wax!?. They(Tehy....I need coffee!) even had a c5 (vette) wax. Wish I had tried that one.
 
I agree. Is it worth it to have your car look the best it can be? (according to your likes) ? For me yes.





lbls1 said:
Wow I actually missed this. At this point, a few of my friends here (CalgaryDetail, Vintage, 01bluecls, Accumulator!, SuperBee364 and Mikeyc) know where I stand with this wax.



I'll tell you what I think anyways. It is Excellent. It is Well Worth The Cost. I have yet to see a competitor approach its rendering ability (outside of Vintage's siblings such as Destiny, Atlantique and Royale).



I won't necessarily advise you to try it sight unseen. It is very important to judge and evaluate some of Zymol's other waxes in order for you to determine whether you would be satisfied with the results of a good (they are all good) Zymol. I would recommend that you would try any of the HandCrafted Zymols or perhaps Titanium, Glasur or Concours, and compare either of them to their competitors to see whether they perform. If you decide that a zymol would definitely meet your objective, then you'll be safer in deciding to purchase one of their mega buck cremes.



Edit: Vintage is now $1973. 1500 dollars was its retail several years ago.



Edit 2: You only will need one or two passes (after a thorough prep) with Vintage in order to see its prowess. This is a very potent lsp.
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Most car companies' paints have varied a lot over the years...Porsches are a great example: from single stage to b/c, to pretty hard b/c, now they seem sorta soft. Ditto for BMW except that some of their current clears are apparently in the "stupid-soft" range :rolleyes: All I'd worry about is the hardness and, to a far lesser extent, the specific colors and degree of metallic content.



Heh heh, I've seen some very expensive cars that had utterly terrible factory paint ;)



While most here know that I'm willing to cut Zymol a whole lotta slack...their "marque specific" waxes simply make me :spit: :rolleyes: This is strictly *IMO* but I believe they're simply targeting the presumed vanity of certain demographics. Hey, they sell waxes for flex-additive paint (hmmm, what was it called...."aero"?), and wasn't Titanium originally for SUVs..as in, *any* SUV?



And heh...don't I remember a Zymol for Bimmers...something related to the Z3 perhaps :think: Sheesh, it's scary that I even *know* that :o
 
You seem to know a lot about some of zymol's products. Amazing for someone that is dodging (U know who) a chance to try it.



I will be quite anxious when you *finally* try one of the zymols!!!! I can't wait for that day pal!! Lol!!!



MDRX, I can hardly wait to see some of your results as well!!!
 
They probably go to far in waxes for certain cars. But I can tell you they make some great waxes.



Accumulator said:
Most car companies' paints have varied a lot over the years...Porsches are a great example: from single stage to b/c, to pretty hard b/c, now they seem sorta soft. Ditto for BMW except that some of their current clears are apparently in the "stupid-soft" range :rolleyes: All I'd worry about is the hardness and, to a far lesser extent, the specific colors and degree of metallic content.



Heh heh, I've seen some very expensive cars that had utterly terrible factory paint ;)



While most here know that I'm willing to cut Zymol a whole lotta slack...their "marque specific" waxes simply make me :spit: :rolleyes: This is strictly *IMO* but I believe they're simply targeting the presumed vanity of certain demographics. Hey, they sell waxes for flex-additive paint (hmmm, what was it called...."aero"?), and wasn't Titanium originally for SUVs..as in, *any* SUV?



And heh...don't I remember a Zymol for Bimmers...something related to the Z3 perhaps :think: Sheesh, it's scary that I even *know* that :o
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I'm not going to comment on the "worth it" price of the $7000 zymol... and I'm sure as hell not going to drop $7k to find out if its any good.



Jokingly I told a friend the other day I was going to develop a really crappy wax product, but charge a small fortune for it b/c the ingredients would include



100% pure, uncut Columbian, cocaine

Powdered baby seal hide (ruthlessly clubbed of course)

Pure Egyptian mummy extract

Oils illegally extracted from rare and priceless paintings

Ground up bibles diluted with real holy water

and most importantly a blend of whale semen



I wonder if it'll sell?? J/K
 
I belive I missed this thread. I dont post alot but I still read alot.

As always there is a debate over Vintage, which is great as there are always new people involved in the conversation. I love reading these threads



ok now to the issue. I have not used Vintage. I have a freind who is getting it, I will be helping him do a detail so I can try it. That way I know i like it.

However after trying concours and loving it so much I would have no problem drpping 2k on wax. I decided I would try a cheaper wax, see if I liked it and then decided if there was all tis hype or is zymol really staked up. Well Concours was amazing. I hae never been more satfied with a wax, the only issue its expensive. If it were cheaper I would use it on everything. Instead it goes on 1 or 2 cars as of now.

I have also ordered titaium to see if its any good. Thatofcours wil go on more cars then concours.



The reason I say all this is becasue (as mentioned) it might be worth spending the lesser amounts to try there products. Although its a diffrent product Conours is applied the same way and is a higher end wax. It will give you an idea of how you like zymol.

If you like it awsome, then you can decide how to go from there, however if you dont like it consider it a sunk cost, You spent 200 bucks to save 2k.



wlll these are just my thoughts and ramblings
 
I always try to do reviews, if I get to them, well thats another matter.

In the past I have done a review on concours, as well as I have postedpics of a red jag with a few coats on it. If you want me to dig this stuf up let me know and i will shoot you a pm with it
 
imo, these guys who make these waxes are laughing all the way to the bank. they must read these tthreads and laugh a little under their breath ( if they only knew).just my .02.
 
U might be right. I like the guys post about what his "wax" was going to be made out of. I have too thought about doing something like that. Its all marketing and perception. Like in my dads store he has shirts that the wholesale is 20 dollars and the suggested retail is 60. He cant sell one at that price. But he had an idea to mark the shirts up to 120 , just for a day. He sold out. But to be quite honest, they are worth every penny of that 120 lol. They are the exceptionally nice.
 
blucpe said:
imo, these guys who make these waxes are laughing all the way to the bank. they must read these tthreads and laugh a little under their breath ( if they only knew).just my .02.
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Im confused by this statement. Are not all sucesfull wax companies laughing all the way to the bank.

Max must be laughing all the way to the bank as well with all the sucesfull waxes he has.



They are all in this to make money. Its a fact. And if they can charge that why wouldnt they. They are in this to make money, and if they can makemore good for them...however regardless of the price or amounts they are making, Zymol makes great products,...
 
calgarydetail said:
Im confused by this statement. Are not all sucesfull wax companies laughing all the way to the bank.

Max must be laughing all the way to the bank as well with all the sucesfull waxes he has.



They are all in this to make money. Its a fact. And if they can charge that why wouldnt they. They are in this to make money, and if they can makemore good for them...however regardless of the price or amounts they are making, Zymol makes great products,...
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I think his point was that a good amount of the money charged for the $7000 zymol is markup centered around marketing and perception... there honestly cannot be $7k worth of material and overhead in it... just doesn't seem possible.
 
When you get to the connoisseur level of *anything*, IMO it's silly to talk about products being "worth it". At that level of discretionary expenditure, something is worth whatever somebody is happy to pay for it. And if everybody's happy, nobody loses.
 
Accumulator said:
When you get to the connoisseur level of *anything*, IMO it's silly to talk about products being "worth it". At that level of discretionary expenditure, something is worth whatever somebody is happy to pay for it. And if everybody's happy, nobody loses.
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well said:2thumbs:
 
Accumulator said:
When you get to the connoisseur level of *anything*, IMO it's silly to talk about products being "worth it". At that level of discretionary expenditure, something is worth whatever somebody is happy to pay for it. And if everybody's happy, nobody loses.
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Very true... speaks more to 'value' in the eyes of the end user than to cost... guess if you have the money to be comfortable dropping that kind of coin on wax then more power to ya... can't say I wouldn't do the same if I had that kind of money to burn.
 
blucpe said:
imo, these guys who make these waxes are laughing all the way to the bank. they must read these tthreads and laugh a little under their breath ( if they only knew).just my .02.
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I can tell you as a Zymol Vintage owner there is a difference in the quality of the waxes. I have used Pin. Souveran and Zymol Concours. I used Japon, Victoria, 50/50, Natty's blue and red, Swissol, Zanio, Meg. 21, want me to keep going???? By the looks of the Vintage on my car I can tell it is in a league of it's own. $1,800.00 league? Well the answer is yes for me. I know when I call Zymol about something like a refill, I get the royal treatment. Do they laugh all the way to the bank? Don't know, don't care. Put some 61% nuba on your car and let it dry. It is hard as a brick to get off. So to sum it up, I really don't care what others think. It's my money. You do as you please. My taste are different.
 
MDRX8 said:
I can tell you as a Zymol Vintage owner there is a difference in the quality of the waxes. I have used Pin. Souveran and Zymol Concours. I used Japon, Victoria, 50/50, Natty's blue and red, Swissol, Zanio, Meg. 21, want me to keep going???? By the looks of the Vintage on my car I can tell it is in a league of it's own. $1,800.00 league? Well the answer is yes for me. I know when I call Zymol about something like a refill, I get the royal treatment. Do they laugh all the way to the bank? Don't know, don't care. Put some 61% nuba on your car and let it dry. It is hard as a brick to get off. So to sum it up, I really don't care what others think. It's my money. You do as you please. My taste are different.
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I remember watching a video of a guy using vintage on a veyron and he would rub it together in his bare hands and spread it on without an applicator... is that the way you have to apply it or is that just something that guy did??



Also, post up some pics of your ride... I'd like to see what a car treated with $1800 wax looks like. :bigups
 
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