Where Does Vanilla Moose Fall?

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RogueM3

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Hey Guys,



I have read good things about RMG and VM recently and was checking them out on the Specialty Motoring Site (they have better product details than Ranney...). While I love picking out new products and experimenting, is Vanilla Moose something totally different than AIO or SSR 1? I already have both of those products and it seems as if the VM will both reduce minor swirls and clean the paint...exactly what I understand SSR 1 and AIO to do.



Is RMG the same as VM, just especially formulated for Red & Black paint?



Thanks guys.
 
VM has about the same cutting power as SSR1 or Meguiars #9 when using a PC and a polishing pad but it also lays down some protection. It also leaves the paint much slicker than SSR1 or #9. RMG has light chemical cleaners and adds depth to darker colors but don't expect it to remove defects.
 
Scottwax said:
VM has about the same cutting power as SSR1 or Meguiars #9 when using a PC and a polishing pad but it also lays down some protection. It also leaves the paint much slicker than SSR1 or #9. RMG has light chemical cleaners and adds depth to darker colors but don't expect it to remove defects.
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Thanks for the reply.



If I follow SSR 1 with AIO would it provide similar results to VM? Typically I will use SSR 2.5 followed by AIO (I guess I bought the SSR 1 on a whim and dont really have a use for it. :mad: )



I dont necessarily want to buy new products, but will if its going to provide an "oh wow" kind of reaction. (talking about use on a dark blue bmw and a bright yellow bmw)
 
RogueM3 said:
Thanks for the reply.



If I follow SSR 1 with AIO would it provide similar results to VM? Typically I will use SSR 2.5 followed by AIO (I guess I bought the SSR 1 on a whim and dont really have a use for it. :mad: )



I dont necessarily want to buy new products, but will if its going to provide an "oh wow" kind of reaction. (talking about use on a dark blue bmw and a bright yellow bmw)
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VM is definitely wetter looking than AIO but AIO is better if you plan on using most sealants. VM is a terrific base for carnaubas and both Poorboy's EX's. If you need to work in the direct sun, VM is a much better choice than AIO since it stays wet for a very long time, even on black paint, straight up noon with temperatures in the high 90s.



Pontman43 :nixweiss Haven't used either of Poorboy's 'blue' polishes.
 
RogueM3 said:
Thanks for the reply.



If I follow SSR 1 with AIO would it provide similar results to VM? Typically I will use SSR 2.5 followed by AIO (I guess I bought the SSR 1 on a whim and dont really have a use for it. :mad: )



I dont necessarily want to buy new products, but will if its going to provide an "oh wow" kind of reaction. (talking about use on a dark blue bmw and a bright yellow bmw)
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I wouldnt think AIO would be necessary after SSR 1, or vice versa. AIO is an excellent chemical cleaner but really has no abrasive qualities or functions. SSR 1 is an excellent maintenance polish, and not a dedicated SMR, but use when needing light cleaning prior to using a sealant or wax.

Would you guys say that VM is similar to PBs Pro Polish blue?
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Again, no abrasive function with the Pro Polish, just an excellent cleaner. In reference to the above comments, Pro Polish is more along the lines of AIO , as opossed to VM. VM's only protective qualities are the oils it carrys as it creates depth and lustre. Once those evaporate and/or thin, your protection is gone. I wouldnt expect VM to stand on its own for more then a couple weeks in the summer sun. AIO on the other hand, a good month at least.

As for VM being a "Oh wow"....on darks, absolutely......
 
a.k.a. Patrick said:
I wouldnt think AIO would be necessary after SSR 1, or vice versa. AIO is an excellent chemical cleaner but really has no abrasive qualities or functions. SSR 1 is an excellent maintenance polish, and not a dedicated SMR, but use when needing light cleaning prior to using a sealant or wax.

Again, no abrasive function with the Pro Polish, just an excellent cleaner. In reference to the above comments, Pro Polish is more along the lines of AIO , as opossed to VM. VM's only protective qualities are the oils it carrys as it creates depth and lustre. Once those evaporate and/or thin, your protection is gone. I wouldnt expect VM to stand on its own for more then a couple weeks in the summer sun. AIO on the other hand, a good month at least.

As for VM being a "Oh wow"....on darks, absolutely......
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Is Pro Polish more like a glaze? Thats what I gather from reading the description.

So, basically VM and PBPP are in two different classes right. Then what would you consider to be most like VM?
 
OCC, VM and EX......

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a.k.a. Patrick said:
VM's only protective qualities are the oils it carrys as it creates depth and lustre. Once those evaporate and/or thin, your protection is gone. I wouldnt expect VM to stand on its own for more then a couple weeks in the summer sun.
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:nixweiss My understanding from Everett is that Vanilla Moose contains the same wax as in regular Moose Wax (petroleum based) and that it should protect 3 months under optimum conditions.



He will be in Arlington for a car show this weekend, I'll see if I can clarify it.
 
Scott, your inbox is full!!



Anyways, I was just going to PM you to ask for more info about this car show, when and where? He'll probably have a booth up and running, correct? I wouldn't mind dropping by, thanks!



-Mark
 
Scottwax said:
:nixweiss My understanding from Everett is that Vanilla Moose contains the same wax as in regular Moose Wax (petroleum based) and that it should protect 3 months under optimum conditions.



He will be in Arlington for a car show this weekend, I'll see if I can clarify it.
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:scared: I would not feel comfortable communicating that to those who use it as a last step.......Course, I wouldnt use it as a last step either.....

Pont, PBPP is nowehere near a glaze, its strictly a cleaner, and a great one at that....As for VM comporables? Megs 80, although a stronger polish.
 
SpoiledMan said:
OCC, VM and EX......

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WOW. Thanks to everyone who posted...definitely appreciated. I think I am going to sell/trade my SSR1 in the "trading post" and pick up a bottle of the VM.



My only reason for saying I would follow the SSR1 with the AIO was for the look that AIO gives...not to remove hazing or anything of that nature.



Thanks again.



-Richard
 
mrecktid said:
Scott, your inbox is full!!



Anyways, I was just going to PM you to ask for more info about this car show, when and where? He'll probably have a booth up and running, correct? I wouldn't mind dropping by, thanks!



-Mark
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http://www.clearkote.net/schedule.htm



"September 23-25

Annual Southwest Swap Meet

Ballpark at Arlington

Arlington TX"



I will probably go on Sunday, haven't scheduled anything yet but if I get rained out on Saturday, I'll go then. Give me a call at 817 235-5376 if you want to meet up.
 
As I can read, a good process will be:

1.- Vanilla Moose

2.- PB EX-P

3.- P21S

I'm right? How much washes will resist the fillers that VM contains moreless? Any glaze better in duration/amount of the fillers?

Thanks !!
 
Just a side note about PBPP... I was reading a thread at one of the "other" forums, and Steve (poorboy) himself stated that PBPP, when used with the right pad, can remove more defects than SSR1. He went on to state that SSR1 is more of a very fine finishing polish, and you won't get much defect removal with it at all. He stated that PBPP is a much more versatile product, and when used with a polishing pad will remove wetsanding marks (forget which number).



I always thought it was the other way around. Learn something new every day.
 
maesal said:
As I can read, a good process will be:

1.- Vanilla Moose

2.- PB EX-P

3.- P21S

I'm right? How much washes will resist the fillers that VM contains moreless? Any glaze better in duration/amount of the fillers?

Thanks !!
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Yes, that would be a good combination assuming your paint doesn't have any heavy swirling or need any real defect removal. A glaze will wash right off if it's not sealed in with a carnauba. Since you're going to be putting EX-P and P21S over your VM, your washing will wear away at those first.



FWIW, I find RMG leaves a better finish than VM, but like Scottwax stated, VM has better defect removal abilities.
 
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